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	<title>Comments on: Do Sigg Bottles Leech BPA into Your Water?</title>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://thegoat.backcountry.com/2008/04/23/do-sigg-bottles-leech-bpa-into-your-water/#comment-423196</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was truly disappointing to see a trusted brand like SIGG go through a lawsuit like this... That's why I trust Klean Kanteen. Stainless steel, durable, and BPA free! Hopefully SIGG will learn from this incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was truly disappointing to see a trusted brand like SIGG go through a lawsuit like this&#8230; That&#8217;s why I trust Klean Kanteen. Stainless steel, durable, and BPA free! Hopefully SIGG will learn from this incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Brado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no reason to get rid of things that I already paid for. That said, you won't see me running to the store any time son to cash in on Klean Kanteens because whether Nalgenes take a few weeks off my life or not, the social suicide that comes with a Klean Kanteen would just be too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no reason to get rid of things that I already paid for. That said, you won&#8217;t see me running to the store any time son to cash in on Klean Kanteens because whether Nalgenes take a few weeks off my life or not, the social suicide that comes with a Klean Kanteen would just be too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy_H</title>
		<link>http://thegoat.backcountry.com/2008/04/23/do-sigg-bottles-leech-bpa-into-your-water/#comment-162268</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy_H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 06:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear those cigarette things might not be too good for you either. You might want to find some time between huffing freshly microwaved popcorn and drinking hot tea from your Nalgene to smoke a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear those cigarette things might not be too good for you either. You might want to find some time between huffing freshly microwaved popcorn and drinking hot tea from your Nalgene to smoke a few.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjornar</title>
		<link>http://thegoat.backcountry.com/2008/04/23/do-sigg-bottles-leech-bpa-into-your-water/#comment-161322</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjornar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, sweet sweet lawsuits, and it will end up the best kind of lawsuit--the class action lawsuit.  Where because the class is so large, you can expect to get a $1.00 coupon for a new BPA Free containter from Nalgene, while the attorneys involved will pull in $10,000,000 or more, and Nalgene will be financially hosed.  But at least that woman has the bragging rights of being the puppet/mouthpiece for this particular class action.  BRAVO.  I hope she also refused to get her kids immunized (possible autism link), she may also want to sterilize them each day with a  full body hand sanitizer bath.

All of these products we didn't know were killing us, and yet we all still live so long that we're clogging up the healthcare industry with Medicare patients.  I've heard the babyboomers are going to crush it in the next few years.  Me I'll keep drinking Tab sometimes, I'll drink out of whatever containers I happen to come by, I'll smell the popcorn when it comes out of the microwave (popcorn lung?) and who knows, perhaps I'll start eating fugu (deadly puffer fish) on a weekly basis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, sweet sweet lawsuits, and it will end up the best kind of lawsuit&#8211;the class action lawsuit.  Where because the class is so large, you can expect to get a $1.00 coupon for a new BPA Free containter from Nalgene, while the attorneys involved will pull in $10,000,000 or more, and Nalgene will be financially hosed.  But at least that woman has the bragging rights of being the puppet/mouthpiece for this particular class action.  BRAVO.  I hope she also refused to get her kids immunized (possible autism link), she may also want to sterilize them each day with a  full body hand sanitizer bath.</p>
<p>All of these products we didn&#8217;t know were killing us, and yet we all still live so long that we&#8217;re clogging up the healthcare industry with Medicare patients.  I&#8217;ve heard the babyboomers are going to crush it in the next few years.  Me I&#8217;ll keep drinking Tab sometimes, I&#8217;ll drink out of whatever containers I happen to come by, I&#8217;ll smell the popcorn when it comes out of the microwave (popcorn lung?) and who knows, perhaps I&#8217;ll start eating fugu (deadly puffer fish) on a weekly basis!</p>
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		<title>By: Debby deMoulpied</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debby deMoulpied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SIGG  Bottles. Just to clarify, the testing done on the SIGG bottles was not what I consider independent, it was paid for by SIGG.  HHHMMMMMMM
Debby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIGG  Bottles. Just to clarify, the testing done on the SIGG bottles was not what I consider independent, it was paid for by SIGG.  HHHMMMMMMM<br />
Debby</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will continue to proudly drink out of any Nalgene. You got be to kidding me if you think that something so minor is really screwing you up; if anything it is probably making your immune system stronger. you should move to a isolated bubble and have fun there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will continue to proudly drink out of any Nalgene. You got be to kidding me if you think that something so minor is really screwing you up; if anything it is probably making your immune system stronger. you should move to a isolated bubble and have fun there.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from REI:

Me: 
Member email  xxxxxxxxx@aol.com
Question  I need to know if Nalgene will be making the 1 liter, wide-mouth 
bottles out of the new material.

Them:
Hello,
Thank you for choosing REI for your outdoor equipment needs.
Nalgene will be making a 1 liter bottle out of the Triton material which is BPA 
free.  We will be carrying these bottles, however, we do not have an estimated 
time of arrival as of yet.
All of the bottles currently online and in our stores are BPA free, however.  To 
view our bottle assortment, click on the following link:
http://www.rei.com/category/5760748
Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.
Rosemary
REI Product Information Specialist

Me again:
Thanks for the quick reply.
One more question: Do you know if the new 1 liter bottle will be of the same 
dimensions as the old lexan design? Specifically, will the the opening be the 
same and will it work with my various splash guards, handles and sleeves that I 
own?
Kindest regards,
xxxxxxx

Them again:
Yes, the new Nalgene bottles will have the same dimensions and be compatible 
with the same accessories.
Thank you for choosing REI as your gear and clothing resource.
Paul
REI Product Information Specialist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from REI:</p>
<p>Me:<br />
Member email  <a href="mailto:xxxxxxxxx@aol.com">xxxxxxxxx@aol.com</a><br />
Question  I need to know if Nalgene will be making the 1 liter, wide-mouth<br />
bottles out of the new material.</p>
<p>Them:<br />
Hello,<br />
Thank you for choosing REI for your outdoor equipment needs.<br />
Nalgene will be making a 1 liter bottle out of the Triton material which is BPA<br />
free.  We will be carrying these bottles, however, we do not have an estimated<br />
time of arrival as of yet.<br />
All of the bottles currently online and in our stores are BPA free, however.  To<br />
view our bottle assortment, click on the following link:<br />
<a href="http://www.rei.com/category/5760748" rel="nofollow">http://www.rei.com/category/5760748</a><br />
Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.<br />
Rosemary<br />
REI Product Information Specialist</p>
<p>Me again:<br />
Thanks for the quick reply.<br />
One more question: Do you know if the new 1 liter bottle will be of the same<br />
dimensions as the old lexan design? Specifically, will the the opening be the<br />
same and will it work with my various splash guards, handles and sleeves that I<br />
own?<br />
Kindest regards,<br />
xxxxxxx</p>
<p>Them again:<br />
Yes, the new Nalgene bottles will have the same dimensions and be compatible<br />
with the same accessories.<br />
Thank you for choosing REI as your gear and clothing resource.<br />
Paul<br />
REI Product Information Specialist</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to beat this dead horse again but I was out all day yesterday and didn't see the myriad of responses. 

It's my understanding that the toxic chemicals in steel are much less likely to be leeched into your water, the steel must be at or near melting point for these chemical changes to happen where boiling water can and will make chemical changes to your nalgene plastic. 

I'm well aware that any container you pour one liquid in will retain some of that flavor. My point was that if i use a nalgene for holding my coffee in the morning and then give it a quick rinse, I've still got a coffee flavor the rest of the day. With a stainless container, I can give it a quick rinse with water and not have any traces of coffee right after.  

I'm not chastising your precious nalgenes, just saying it's a nice benefit of steel over plastic. 

It's a preference, I thought the steel bottles were for loonies before I tried one and was impressed with it. 

That is all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to beat this dead horse again but I was out all day yesterday and didn&#8217;t see the myriad of responses. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that the toxic chemicals in steel are much less likely to be leeched into your water, the steel must be at or near melting point for these chemical changes to happen where boiling water can and will make chemical changes to your nalgene plastic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m well aware that any container you pour one liquid in will retain some of that flavor. My point was that if i use a nalgene for holding my coffee in the morning and then give it a quick rinse, I&#8217;ve still got a coffee flavor the rest of the day. With a stainless container, I can give it a quick rinse with water and not have any traces of coffee right after.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not chastising your precious nalgenes, just saying it&#8217;s a nice benefit of steel over plastic. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a preference, I thought the steel bottles were for loonies before I tried one and was impressed with it. </p>
<p>That is all!</p>
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		<title>By: WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it begins...
Nalgene sports bottle maker sued over toxic claims
Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:24pm EDT

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California mother sued Nalge Nunc International Corp, claiming the company knew, but downplayed risks, that a toxic substance in its popular Nalgene plastic sports bottles could leach into the bottles' contents and sicken consumers.

The case, filed on Tuesday, is believed to be the first consumer class action over the use of Bisphenol A, or BPA, in plastic sports bottles since Canada moved to ban baby bottles containing the substance and the U.S. government expressed concern over its safety last week.

Nalge Nunc, a unit of Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc, said on Friday it will phase out production of its Outdoor line of polycarbonate containers that include BPA over the next several months.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc also said on Friday it will pull baby bottles and other products made with BPA from its Canada stores immediately and phase the items out of its U.S. stores next year.

The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Sacramento, accuses Nalge Nunc of continuing to assert that BPA is safe long after dozens of studies linked the substance to hormone disruptions, infertility, early puberty, and cancer.

The lawsuit was brought by Lani Felix-Lozano, who said she bought the company's reusable beverage containers for herself and her two daughters, now ages 11 and 13, for several years.

"They address the issue of BPA in their bottles (on their Web site); they cite the (Food and Drug Administration) stating that they see no problem with it. The problem is they didn't cite the many other studies that show there is a risk and there is a great concern about the issue," attorney Harold Hewell, who represents Felix-Lozano, said.

The lawsuit does not describe any physical ailment suffered by the plaintiffs and seeks unspecified damages.

A spokeswoman for Nalge Nunc could not be reached for comment late on Wednesday.

Industry groups and some scientists defended BPA's safety, saying there has been no clear corroboration between studies on animals showing BPA to be harmful even at low levels, and risks to human health. (Reporting by Gina Keating; editing by Carol Bishopric)

Â© Thomson Reuters 2008. All rights reserved. Users may download and print extracts of content from this website for their own personal and non-commercial use only. Republication or redistribution of Thomson Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Thomson Reuters. Thomson Reuters and its logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of the Thomson Reuters group of companies around the world. Thomson Reuters journalists are subject to an Editorial Handbook which requires fair presentation and disclosure of relevant interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it begins&#8230;<br />
Nalgene sports bottle maker sued over toxic claims<br />
Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:24pm EDT</p>
<p>LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California mother sued Nalge Nunc International Corp, claiming the company knew, but downplayed risks, that a toxic substance in its popular Nalgene plastic sports bottles could leach into the bottles&#8217; contents and sicken consumers.</p>
<p>The case, filed on Tuesday, is believed to be the first consumer class action over the use of Bisphenol A, or BPA, in plastic sports bottles since Canada moved to ban baby bottles containing the substance and the U.S. government expressed concern over its safety last week.</p>
<p>Nalge Nunc, a unit of Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc, said on Friday it will phase out production of its Outdoor line of polycarbonate containers that include BPA over the next several months.</p>
<p>Wal-Mart Stores Inc also said on Friday it will pull baby bottles and other products made with BPA from its Canada stores immediately and phase the items out of its U.S. stores next year.</p>
<p>The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Sacramento, accuses Nalge Nunc of continuing to assert that BPA is safe long after dozens of studies linked the substance to hormone disruptions, infertility, early puberty, and cancer.</p>
<p>The lawsuit was brought by Lani Felix-Lozano, who said she bought the company&#8217;s reusable beverage containers for herself and her two daughters, now ages 11 and 13, for several years.</p>
<p>&#8220;They address the issue of BPA in their bottles (on their Web site); they cite the (Food and Drug Administration) stating that they see no problem with it. The problem is they didn&#8217;t cite the many other studies that show there is a risk and there is a great concern about the issue,&#8221; attorney Harold Hewell, who represents Felix-Lozano, said.</p>
<p>The lawsuit does not describe any physical ailment suffered by the plaintiffs and seeks unspecified damages.</p>
<p>A spokeswoman for Nalge Nunc could not be reached for comment late on Wednesday.</p>
<p>Industry groups and some scientists defended BPA&#8217;s safety, saying there has been no clear corroboration between studies on animals showing BPA to be harmful even at low levels, and risks to human health. (Reporting by Gina Keating; editing by Carol Bishopric)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statistic I read was 95% of Americans have detectable BPA in their bodies.  Since there's no way 95% of Americans drink out of Nalgenes, I'd say there's a lot more sources out there - can linings on a variety of cans, the polycarbonate water jugs in your office water cooler, and who knows what else.  Does one bottle make a difference?  I don't know, but I'll probably toss the free Backcountry.com Nalgenes my kids are using.  What a windfall for Nalgene as everyone chucks their indestructible Lexan bottles for the new Tritan ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statistic I read was 95% of Americans have detectable BPA in their bodies.  Since there&#8217;s no way 95% of Americans drink out of Nalgenes, I&#8217;d say there&#8217;s a lot more sources out there - can linings on a variety of cans, the polycarbonate water jugs in your office water cooler, and who knows what else.  Does one bottle make a difference?  I don&#8217;t know, but I&#8217;ll probably toss the free Backcountry.com Nalgenes my kids are using.  What a windfall for Nalgene as everyone chucks their indestructible Lexan bottles for the new Tritan ones.</p>
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